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Where Do We Go From Here?

Where Do We Go From Here?

Höfundur: Jessica Van Der Wyngaard

A weekly podcast deconstructing purity culture, sex and other real life stuff for thoughtful Christians and exvangelicals alike.

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Grace for Parents, Healing for Kids - Chatting to the authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting

Grace for Parents, Healing for Kids - Chatting to the authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting

Guests:
Marissa Franks-Burt – Instagram | Substack
Kelsey Kramer McGinnis – Instagram | Substack | Writer at Christianity Today
Abou...

2025-10-10 06:03:00 01:14:03
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April Ajoy on Christian Nationalism and Star-Spangled Jesus

April Ajoy on Christian Nationalism and Star-Spangled Jesus

This week on Where Do We Go From Here? EDJ sits down with content creator, podcaster, and author April Ajoy to talk about her new book Star-Spangled J...

2025-09-24 00:19:00 44:37
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No Hard Feelings about Charlie Kirk

No Hard Feelings about Charlie Kirk

Responding to the Assassination of Charlie Kirk
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has shaken Christian communities across the U.S. and beyond. I...

2025-09-16 04:47:00 39:44
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Devi's Back for the Dr James Dobson Autopsy

Devi's Back for the Dr James Dobson Autopsy

In this special one-off reunion episode, Jessica is joined by former co-host Devi Abraham to do a kind of “Dobson autopsy.” When Dr. James Dobson, fou...

2025-09-09 03:13:00 01:04:28
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Kristin Kobes Du Mez on Purity Culture, Patriarchy & Power

Kristin Kobes Du Mez on Purity Culture, Patriarchy & Power

We're bringing back one of our most downloaded episodes of the last 5 years — and for good reason. This riveting conversation with Dr. Kristin Kobes D...

2025-09-01 15:18:00 58:44
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Submission, Agency, and Shiny Happy People S2: Where Do We Go From Here?

Submission, Agency, and Shiny Happy People S2: Where Do We Go From Here?

In this month’s Thoughts and Prayers episode of Where Do We Go From Here?, Jessica and EDJ reflect on some of the biggest conversations we’ve had toge...

2025-08-25 18:53:00 45:37
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Submission: The Church Rule We Subconsciously Deconstructed?

Submission: The Church Rule We Subconsciously Deconstructed?

In this episode of No Hard Feelings, Jessica, Emily, and Kristen tackle the loaded word submission in Christian culture. What did Paul really mean in...

2025-08-19 03:38:00 40:37
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Consent as a Holy Starting Point: Rethinking Christian Sexual Ethics

Consent as a Holy Starting Point: Rethinking Christian Sexual Ethics

After years of believing that premarital sex was a sin without exception, Jessica invites us into a vulnerable, thought-provoking solo episode to expl...

2025-08-12 09:04:00 21:22
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Beyond Consent: Rethinking Sex, Power, and Justice - a conversation with Danielle Tumminio Hansen

Beyond Consent: Rethinking Sex, Power, and Justice - a conversation with Danielle Tumminio Hansen

Content Warnings:
This episode discusses rape, sexual assault, purity culture, childhood sexual harm, and childbirth trauma. Listener discretio...

2025-08-05 19:19:00 51:02
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Parenting and Re-Parenting Without Sexual Shame with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers

Parenting and Re-Parenting Without Sexual Shame with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers

Originally released as episode 52.
This episode is part therapy, part masterclass. Dr. Tina Shermer Sellers joins us to talk about parenting and...

2025-07-31 06:36:00 53:31
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Shiny Happy People Season 2: Teen Mania, Radicalisation & the Teenage Holy War

Shiny Happy People Season 2: Teen Mania, Radicalisation & the Teenage Holy War

A raw and cathartic conversation about Shiny Happy People Season 2, Teen Mania, the Honor Academy, and the teenage evangelical pipeline.
Episode...

2025-07-28 00:59:00 54:42
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Sex, Consent and the Theology of Harm: What if sin is about harm, not rules? We rethink ethics, bodies, and sacred sexuality

Sex, Consent and the Theology of Harm: What if sin is about harm, not rules? We rethink ethics, bodies, and sacred sexuality

In this episode of Thoughts and Prayers, Jessica and EDJ reflect on three key conversations from the past month — with queer theologian Brandon Robert...

2025-07-22 06:27:00 01:00:11
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"Talking About Sex in Church Broke Us" — Donna Freitas on Healing What Religion Couldn’t

"Talking About Sex in Church Broke Us" — Donna Freitas on Healing What Religion Couldn’t

Author, scholar, and survivor Donna Freitas joins us for a raw and deeply thoughtful conversation on the ways purity culture, religious silence, and i...

2025-07-15 04:45:00 32:46
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Is It Time for a New Christian Sexual Ethic?

Is It Time for a New Christian Sexual Ethic?

Is it time to reimagine a Christian sexual ethic? That’s the big question Jessica, Kristen, and Emily take on in this bold, honest, and expansive No H...

2025-07-08 07:57:00 53:52
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Most Downloaded: Sex and Agency

Most Downloaded: Sex and Agency

Originally released as Episode 49. 
This episode is all about one word: agency. Jessica and Devi revisit their conversation with Sheila Gregoire...

2025-07-03 02:21:00 37:57
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Purity, Paul, and Pride: A Queer Pastor Reimagines Christianity

Purity, Paul, and Pride: A Queer Pastor Reimagines Christianity

Host: EDJ
Guest: Rev. Brandan Robertson – author of Queer and Christian, TikTok pastor, theologian, and public speaker.
In this heartfelt...

2025-06-24 02:00:00 45:36
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Do we still believe in "obedience" after purity culture?

Do we still believe in "obedience" after purity culture?

In this Thoughts and Prayers episode, Jessica and EDJ wade into the murky waters of what it means to engage with faith, critique evangelicalism, and s...

2025-06-19 12:09:00 32:57
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Is Christianity Still Good News for Women?

Is Christianity Still Good News for Women?

Is Christianity still good news for women?
It’s a big question — and in this episode, Jessica is joined by Emily and Kristen for a thoughtful,...

2025-06-10 21:33:00 46:03
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Can You Still Follow God After Church Trauma? A conversation with Brenda Palmer

Can You Still Follow God After Church Trauma? A conversation with Brenda Palmer

What happens when saying yes to God means leaving behind everything you built — and trusting Him in the silence?
In this deeply moving episode,...

2025-06-03 21:02:00 43:14
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Emotional Affairs & the First American Pope. A No Hard Feelings Chat

Emotional Affairs & the First American Pope. A No Hard Feelings Chat

This episode of No Hard Feelings is one for the books: we’re tackling two wildly different but surprisingly rich topics — emotional cheating in the ag...

2025-05-15 10:53:00 34:15
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Pelvic Floors, Pain, Pleasure & Purity Culture with osteopath Rebecca Lovett

Pelvic Floors, Pain, Pleasure & Purity Culture with osteopath Rebecca Lovett

What if your pain isn’t just something you have to live with?
In this episode, Jessica talks with osteopath Rebecca Lovett about pelvic floors,...

2025-05-01 13:02:00 42:49
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Where Does Deconstruction Go From Here?

Where Does Deconstruction Go From Here?

In this episode of 'Where Do We Go From Here?', host Jessica van der wyngaard introduces her new co-host EDJ, who shares her journey from Australia to...

2025-04-15 22:04:00 37:39
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What Does Safe Sex and Ghosting Have in Common?

What Does Safe Sex and Ghosting Have in Common?

Welcome to Where Do We Go From Here's new monthly episode series: No Hard Feelings - where we take on the questions that don’t have easy answers. But...

2025-04-08 03:23:00 46:54
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Where Did Devi Go From Here? Saying Goodbye (for now)

Where Did Devi Go From Here? Saying Goodbye (for now)

After nearly five years of co-creating Where Do We Go From Here?, Devi Abraham is stepping away from the podcast and Patreon community — and today, Je...

2025-03-24 19:41:00 53:46
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Devi's got something to share...

Devi's got something to share...

Where Do We Go From Here is a podcast hosted, edited and produced by Jessica Vanderwyngaard and Devi Abraham. 
Sign up for a 2-month long book c...

2025-03-06 10:30:00 13:33
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149: Radical Activism, Women’s Rights, and the Legacy of Josephine Butler

149: Radical Activism, Women’s Rights, and the Legacy of Josephine Butler

In the 19th century, Josephine Butler defied every expectation of what a woman should be. A privileged, refined Victorian lady, she became a fearless...

2025-02-06 17:28:00 43:10
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148: Purity Culture’s Black & White Thinking Hurt us. Here’s What Can Help

148: Purity Culture’s Black & White Thinking Hurt us. Here’s What Can Help

For anyone who thought kissing someone you didn’t marry would ruin your life and wreck your faith, Dr. Camden Morgante is here to help. 
Show No...

2024-11-13 23:42:00 27:14
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Losing Her Religion: Gen Z's Gender Divide in Faith

Losing Her Religion: Gen Z's Gender Divide in Faith

Jess and Devi are back with a lot of thoughts about why Gen Z men are now more religious than Gen Z women. The episode also features the thoughts of o...

2024-11-03 01:26:00 42:16
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What Comes Next?

What Comes Next?

In this episode Devi shares what's next for the show. 
Sign up as a partner to hear weekly episodes of The Jess & Devi Show 
Stay connecte...

2024-04-26 20:17:00 12:04
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'Pure White': The origin story of purity culture

'Pure White': The origin story of purity culture

Trigger warning: This episode contains stories of racial violence and sexualized racial violence. 
In this episode we deep dive Purity Culture's...

2024-03-22 01:35:00 01:10:37
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An "Easy Love" After Divorce: Haverlee's Story

An "Easy Love" After Divorce: Haverlee's Story

In this episode we talk about love after divorce as Haverlee shares her story of a marriage breakdown, living alone, dating, and finding new love. It'...

2024-03-08 16:53:00 48:11
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7 Signs That Your Marriage Can Be Saved

7 Signs That Your Marriage Can Be Saved

There are characteristics and qualities of relationships that lead to better outcomes, and Dr. Camden Morgante joins us to talk about seven of them. I...

2024-02-26 18:20:00 39:58
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What if your marriage doesn’t make you happy or holy?

What if your marriage doesn’t make you happy or holy?

In this episode we deep dive divorce with journalist Lyz Lenz. We talk about:
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter to keep talking. Full show note...

2024-02-15 16:38:00 01:01:02
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Your Body Is  Resource

Your Body Is Resource

In this episode, Hillary McBride guides us toward how to see our body as a resource, and she gives us practical, free tools to help us reconnect with...

2024-01-30 16:10:00 49:31
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No Room At The Inn: Single During A Cost of Living Crisis

No Room At The Inn: Single During A Cost of Living Crisis

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In this episode we dig into the pain points of being unpartnered...

2023-12-20 17:14:00 01:08:55
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Where Is Jess Going From Here?

Where Is Jess Going From Here?

In this episode our co-founder Jessica Van Der Wyngaard tells us the bittersweet news that she's stepping down as co-host of the show and why it's the...

2023-11-30 00:03:00 01:01:20
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‘Holy Runaways’ And The Search For A Spiritual Home

‘Holy Runaways’ And The Search For A Spiritual Home

In this episode we explore what it means to lose our faith and community because our beliefs, or sometimes our very selves, put us at odds with the ex...

2023-11-14 17:13:00 54:54
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Is Andy Stanley's Method the Future for LGBTQ+ Engagement in the Church?

Is Andy Stanley's Method the Future for LGBTQ+ Engagement in the Church?

Andy Stanley's megachurch, North Point, held a conference to equip parents of LGBTQ+ youth and young adults to love and accept their kids, and soon af...

2023-10-11 23:12:00 01:47:03
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A Single Woman & Fertility After 40: Annie's Story

A Single Woman & Fertility After 40: Annie's Story

Annie Parsons is having a baby, and she's an unpartnered, 41-year-old woman in middle America who grew up in Purity Culture. Yes, we have questions. H...

2023-10-03 17:36:00 54:11
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135: Anna McGahan on the Stories that Shape Us, Break Us, and Make Us

135: Anna McGahan on the Stories that Shape Us, Break Us, and Make Us

Anna McGahan is an Australian actress and storyteller who found God in the most radical of ways. Baptised into the Pentecostal tradition, she gave up...

2023-09-21 19:46:00 01:17:47
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